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What Engineers Found When They Tore Apart Tesla's Model 3

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Oct.17 -- Tesla's Model 3 boasts the best technology and motor of any electric vehicle, but a team of engineers in Detroit say there's a major flaw in the car's design that's hurting Tesla's profit margins. Bloomberg Television's Ed Ludlow reports.
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MaDz UpLoAdEr (1 hour ago)
Kurt Fledderus (5 hours ago)
Cool story, Not a model 3 though. And's its a chevy bolt. Still leading the pack, as others are only starting when TESLA in continuously fine tuning their processes.
John Luna (7 hours ago)
I saw a tesla hit a truck head on. The tesla looked like it was in a fender bender. Both men in the truck died! Drunk driver in Orange County.
thomas pavelko (8 hours ago)
As long as one of them 30 to 40 % that lose there job is someone in your family...then see how you feel about Americans loosing there jobs.
Al Finnell (10 hours ago)
I quit. too much background noise.
GamingNonsense (13 hours ago)
someone really wants tesla to fail huh? ;)
Marinus (14 hours ago)
Neodydium magn.. What!?
BudFox559 (14 hours ago)
So unlike the competitors the Tesla's body is built to last, with more parts and higher structural integrity. A little heavier but faster than their competitors.
G. Private (14 hours ago)
Lose the music
Clark Vaughan (14 hours ago)
I smell a rotten fish. HARD cut at 2:28. That's editing in the middle of a sentence, something you must NEVER do in a serious new report. The editor created the response, a no-no. Bloomberg's voice-over was completely negative. The angle was pre-set, everyone just played a part.
ChuddleBuggy (16 hours ago)
@1:16.. "the body is much too stiff.."     Who woulda thunk a high natural frequency would be a problem? 😝
Vincent Van Den Broek (17 hours ago)
Raywalt de Cuba (18 hours ago)
When dinosaurs analyze space ships!
Raywalt de Cuba (18 hours ago)
Waaaiiiit isn't robot build cheaper than human labor? Robofoobs !!!
gdeangelkick (18 hours ago)
LOL -- Tesla had always been regarded by the market as a tech company and a disruptor. To make their product stay ahead of the Detroit lobbyists and the labor union capos, they had to push on with lower profit margins. That was find for investors as long as it was a tech company. But the moment it started to be viewed as a car company, that wasn't OK? By the way, what makes the car able to use that extra speed and power is the stiffer frame. Detroit has been handing a sh*t product to consumers at the mid-price car range, saving the truly fun to drive cars for people with 6-figures to drop on a Corvette or a mish-most of "special packages" tacked on by third party / SPE fabricators who work with Chrysler and Ford. (GM is doing similar by licensing out Pontiac and sending them ho-hum Camaros to fix into proper super-cars.) So this guys analysis is apples to oranges. If it wasn't for Musk being an ideological dip-shit who can't respect democracy -- yes, the middle of America elected Trump, not Russian bots -- I would have bought a Model 3. Not because I'm a 1%-er, but because I'm the middle-class suburbanite who as a potential customer has been fiscally responsible and would like to not pay for gas. You cannot sell enough of these cars to starry eyed millennials who live in cities and only care about ending global warming, not whether or not there will be money in the bank to pay their children's college bill. Those folks can't afford to rent a proper flat for themselves, let alone pay the $1000/month it costs for a parking space, even in a shithole middling city. Rent seeking behavior. That's the enemy here, and you have to give Tesla credit here for not simply patenting that motor technology and then earning rents on it by licensing it off exclusively to one of the big 3, who could then make sure it never saw light of day.
leslie dean brown (22 hours ago)
I want that tesla motor ... in a sports bike.
leslie dean brown (22 hours ago)
Old farts. No fucking wonder they are still using ICE engines in detroit...
Brett Cooper (1 day ago)
They didn't look at the safety features of how the body is built.
JC (1 day ago)
1.Thank you to Telsa for what they're doing right. Still waiting for that affordable version however. 2. Someone mentioned weird and unsubstantiated other "science" devices. Beware scams and prove it. 3. Science = Accurate and true measurements and knowledge. Not the theories. 4. Religion was mentioned. Any man made way connect with the designer, is the lie. We all have some belief system . Even if you say none. But who do you serve? There's 2. 5. A true belief is not counter to true science. It is part of it. Evidence. 6. The evidence did not start with great New Testament. The evidence is Jesus rose from the dead and ascended. That's LIFE over death. This is not religion; because unlike the man-made ways, you do not have to accept it. However; it is a histrionically evidenced fact. Ask any historian why; because it's not faith. Everything that happened before you were born is not all faith. There's evidence. We say; if a guy has pre written evidence (Prophecy) and it's numerous details and of His birth, life, hanging and raising Himself the dead and we also have witnesses; then I'm putting my trust/faith in that guy Jesus My Saviour. Who claimed to be LORD. And that (capitals) means 3 things. Everywhere present (including all of inside and out side of time/space always), all seeing/knowing and He's The all powerful; above any other type of king or being. Greater than he(death) that is in the world; whom GOD keeps on a "chain". So all that adds up to good news; because it's the only purpose. That is what we see now as GOD doing justice "partly"; because it will be completely and soon. So yes your choice is real and only a gift from GOD. If it was not all voluntary then it's not love; just fake love. Remember that in your relationships. But look at the scientific evidence? GOD is and can only be good. Why? Because someone did indeed design all things (100% according to physics, math and statistics) and those things (The cosmos, DNA, cells, your body, your mind, the Earth, The elements) and were created in perfect, harmonious, non-random order. And it's our true science; that says that order of things must then be good. Evil is the atrophy, the mutation, the flaw, the lie, our suffering and it is fear and death. GOD is Life. GOD = Life. There is no death or evil in GOD; at all! And that includes GOD's wrath; because He separates (hates) evil and for us to be any kind, of authentic non-pretending good and love, then you must hate evil also. Not people; but the evil deeds. Such as the mugger's choice; which can kill your loved ones. The cheaters deeds; who lies and breaks up family and confuses children. So you can do what you want but our biggest issue is those are not GOD's ways(or good "NAME"). Our evil deeds create a real debt; compared to Him. Holy means GOD is PERFECTLY good and we're not. But our hope is that rising from the dead; that Jesus came to do for ALL of us and YOU. But no; you don't have to believe Him! Stop acting like if someone tears a page in the Bible then that's proof GOD isn't real. What to do? You don't actually have to cross examine (scientific methods) the testimony of Mathew, Mark, Luke, John and who are are eyewitnesses; but what are you afraid of? They had a a lot to say; so why can't we find their lie? Why don't we dig? Is there something you're doing and that you know is wrong; that is keeping you from admitting, "If any man says they do not sin then The truth is not in him"? Get off the meat grinder of "measuring up". There is no GOD; but GOD. Would you like power; to stop what you do see as evil and actually do what you know is good? And by who's standard do you divide them? Don't you know GOD made a promise to all mankind? So YES GOD was before any things. So GOD foreknew all things; including the suffering. However; He also took it all back on the Cross! And that is why GOD's wrath is also His love for those who would be adopted by Him. GOD is the GOD of TIMING when things happen. We are not. He is in control! We are given SOME prophecy; but not everything. And that is good. So all this suffering you might blame GOD for, and say He "allows", is actually your gift of a LIMITED TIME of CHOICE; which requires TIME(our life), which is the SPACE HE created and to SHOW you The creator in His creation. And you claim to be a scientist and have not noticed? Be true to yourself. People; one tree is proof enough, of GOD almighty. Open ALL of your eyes. Because when we say soon, we ain't kidding around. He LOVES you NOW. Will you love Him back; by doing what HE wrote you to do? The burden is light; if you read it in CONTEXT. All praise honor and glory is the LORD Jesus THE creator of all things; from the beginning. The everlasting and timeless "I AM".
Trace 23 (1 day ago)
OK, so they built the body "all wrong". The same body that broke the testing machines and earned a safer crash test rating than any car in history🤔 (model S) Perhaps the other car companies need to start building their bodies "WRONG". The real question to ask is WHY have the major car manufacturers fought so hard AGAINST making electric cars. I imagine it's tied to the truly stagnate MPG numbers. I mean what are the odds that the Camaro, Mustang, and Charger V-6 or V-8 have almost exactly the same MPG/HP ratings? Aren't they supposed to be in competition? Shouldn't one be different? And the economy cars aren't any better. ie, 1977 Datsun B-210 MPG ratings hwy 42 city 28. You almost have to drive a hybrid for that MPG after 40 YEARS of their improvements and hard work
Frank Svatek (1 day ago)
So let me see . . . It's made stronger than GM or Ford would have done it. It's safer but who wants that? It'll outlast anything that GM or Ford makes; that must be useless . . .In short it's CLEARLY a better car; Why would I ever want to buy one? Tesla obviously has no idea what their doing. Guess we need to wait for GM to show us the way to electric vehicles; they are such geniuses ! ! ! They would NEVER go bankrupt . . . no . . . wait . . . they already did . . .
Jim Logel (1 day ago)
Next episode the airplane thats built too safe ,and why we shouldn't fly them.
Siyabonga Gegane (1 day ago)
I just realized that youtube have a thumb down button.
Matt_Jr (1 day ago)
Wow video is bad in so many ways. Go retire grandpa.
Alex (1 day ago)
So much butthurt in the comments from the Tesla fanboys. I wonder how many of the fanboys are actual engineers or have that kind of background to understand what’s being said.
Josh Diaz (1 day ago)
Get the fuck off my planet! Stuuuuuunads! Tesla for life
teknowafel sam (1 day ago)
0:18 "Tesla's Model 3" *Cuts to 2013 Model S*
UrbanaticLemonade (1 day ago)
Hit Dislike freely
UrbanaticLemonade (1 day ago)
Basically They are saying real Iron Man that his suit is made of Iron thus heavy
sexy korean girl (2 days ago)
like a noob in making the car frame
Galamb Koter (2 days ago)
Why that loud noise some may call it music. Too amaterish.....
ublade82 (2 days ago)
Okay the wheel well is 9 parts instead of 1. Now how many parts is the motor compared to a combustion engine?
Atlas (2 days ago)
"Best batteries" "best engines" "best longevity in the world". Enough said.
Dave Patel (2 days ago)
Neo did e im lol
The Truth (2 days ago)
Here we go! GM's smearing campaign!! SMH They took $700 million dollars from Americans to keep people working and less than 10 years later, they announce they are not going to make cars anymore?? They should be forced to give the $700 million dollars back now!
Fikret Oz (2 days ago)
Mr. Dinosaur, can you please check Chevy cars? I returned one as a lemon last year. And heard dozens of lemon nightmares. I think Tesla are doing better job than almost any other American manufacturers.
Nitish Anand (2 days ago)
Subscribe to T-SERIES
Marco Deo (2 days ago)
The Tesla entry level car priced at 35,000 USD really cost 50,000. Pretty bad when I can buy the same size Toyota for 18,000. Tesla claims to be larger than GM, yet they have negative earnings for 3 consecutive years. Each year earnings have gotten progressively worse.
orange70383 (2 days ago)
Nothing screams soy boy like an electric car
orange70383 (2 days ago)
Tesla junk, the T logo is styled to symbolize baphomet, look it up it's all satanic.
Sid Thaker (2 days ago)
Tearing down a Model 3 must be fun and proves what a well made vehicle this is! If anyone is thinking of ordering a Tesla use my referral link to get 6 to 9 months FREE supercharging http://ts.la/siddharth3086
Roger Strom (2 days ago)
Turn The Music Down Shit For Brains!
T G (2 days ago)
In Detroit they’ve built the same fcking car for the last 50 years, inside their cars have the same buttons and same design from 50 years ago. Do this idiots really judging some other car companies that are better then what they produce in Detroit???
Bradley Wilkinson (2 days ago)
"Tore apart Tesla's Model 3" Proceeds to show a Model S...
riley vandervlist (2 days ago)
I wanna take the electrics and put it in a caged mini 🤣🤣🤣🤣💪🏻 and race rocket ships for fun ha
Reuben Rodgers (2 days ago)
Neodidium? And hellback? Pfft some engineers are but hurt that someone made a better car than they could even speak ....
Jeff Kunkler (2 days ago)
He does make some good points... However I still think Tesla is going to do just fine.
Jeff Kunkler (2 days ago)
you lost me at "the body is too stiff"
dreadpiratedoc (2 days ago)
I love the idea of electric cars moving the fuel combustion from individual inefficient engines to large efficient power plants. but we will need a way for these new non-fuel burning vehicles to pay the road tax. Fueled vehicles pay for upkeep and construction of roads with a simple and elegant tax plan. Pay more fuel tax for more road use. This does not work for electric vehicles that buy no fuel. A weighted mileage tax will be needed for electric vehicles inevitably. I can hear the screams now.
Artur S. (2 days ago)
Because of guys like Munro we get shitty cars which spend more time in the service than on the road. Cheap, cost-optimized shit already bmw, mercedes branded. I stopped buying everything but Toyota. These guys sort of keep up the quality level. Now after this vid Tesla seems definitely worth a closer look
David James (3 days ago)
Elon Musk is a genius people are just trying to supress success
YouTubin (3 days ago)
Viva Tesla! Die oil clunkers!
eLJaybud (3 days ago)
But the Tesla business model is like the inkjet printer business model isn't it?
Barney Potter (3 days ago)
He couldn't hold a candle to Tesla and what Tesla does .he's playing Monday morning quarterback
Barney Potter (3 days ago)
Tesla's not a prick ..that's all he's a people person these guys talking are money monguers the first thoughts from the first guy was cut 30 percent of the company .the fucking dick ass prick
thomas womack (3 days ago)
I have been hearing so much crap from both sides of the aisle...its beginning to sound too much like politics...by george it IS politics!!!! Anything that generates this much hype for this long has some substance to it...going back to politics...watergate, and of course the list goes on and on. All the noise makes me want one even more than ever, but not at the new vehicle price...screw that. I will wait 5 years and see what they go for then...and see if they are worth getting then...if affordable and worth having then, yeah I will get in line. Until then I will stand back and watch the fireworks.
Tina Einstein (3 days ago)
A battery.
hammertimee777 (3 days ago)
Munro has been praising the Model 3. But Bloomberg is magnifying one very small issue he brought up.
moonlander03 (3 days ago)
f this noobs.. go Tesla..
Mel Cohen (3 days ago)
Video is dominated by thumpy loud music. !!!!! Have to strain to follow the dialogue
Leo Plotter (3 days ago)
I think it's the attitude like you assholes below that really give Tesla a bad name - including the fires ! I'd rather have a 75 Volkswagen Beetle
See Nigh - Drummer (3 days ago)
Hi! you can go suck a big cock Bloomberg
Ron Angel (3 days ago)
Apart from the annoying background music (this is not a pop video) there is something not generally known which is the highest guarded secret in the USA and British navy, is electric motor design.  This may not seem much at first but a torpedo’s range and the speed of a frigate/submarine  is governed by electric motors with torpedoes the longer a battery of the same size and power can drive a motor the greater the range so that it can hit the enemy from further away than they can strike back with similar torpedoes. This is similar technology to which I think  Telsa motors are based on  it seems so greater speed more power less battery consumption for same size!  Frigates/submarine  can go faster with same hull design and less power. But of course don’t tell anyone.
Marcus Christensen (3 days ago)
nedodidium magnets lmao
Normieal (3 days ago)
Wow those electric motors are so light. The age of the internal combustion engine is coming to an end.
itacs ltd (4 days ago)
tons of A batteries joined together is the greatest discovery...are you kidding me? weight difference with conventional motor is 1 kilo - are you kidding me again? Bloomberg, very poor, very. But Tesla is even poorer. Shame on you both.
Gary wood (3 days ago)
Electirc cars have the same issue and passenger planes. The power system can't be so vast that most the payload is Fuel to pull the weight. One example is the Wind Turbine farms. Most are over 20 miles away from the end users where the voltage drop is about 30%. So , if you have 100 Wind Turbines it take 30 of them to power the electriciy 20 miles. The wealthy white lebral progressive types want GREEN enegy but not produced near their Condo or mansions by ugly Turbines .
Abinico Arts (4 days ago)
Having zillions of tiny batteries make up the battery pack is stupid. One failure could potentially knock out the whole thing - probability of failure is high in that type of system.
Gary wood (3 days ago)
One day this car will be in a video that mocks the past and how stupid people were to build electric car power systems like this and huge Wind Turbines that have a massive Carbon Footprint to build that was 20 times what it reduced once in use.
Martin Privat (4 days ago)
"Body too stiff". I stopped there. No need to continue.
gdeangelkick (18 hours ago)
Point is that he has the Detroit mindset about cars -- make a cheap POS that drives poorly and then put on some decal fake air intakes, sporty "black out" wheels and lots of tech that doesn't work the way it's supposed to because the code was written by the lowest bidder out of India, China or Phillipines. Although it's better than 30 years ago when US cars basically were so unreliable you needed to a basic course in mechanics to own one.
stinger15au (1 day ago)
I was the same. Analog guy talking in a digital world
DinoRaptor101 (4 days ago)
A very interrsting peek at the Model 3 engine, this is very close to Nikolas rotary tech, I'm not familiar with hellback effect and would wonder how this contributes to the energy to motion output delta.
Tautvydas Bukauskas (4 days ago)
If all of these statements are true, then I am glad that teslas can make much improvement in the future :)...
II. Gyula (4 days ago)
Vén fasz
John Holzhey (4 days ago)
Body is too stiff? Really? Race cars are built stiff for better handling. A flexi chassis can't be controlled well, and has a tendency to break from the flexing.
Peter Jones (9 hours ago)
Chassis are built stiff so suspension can do it's job properly. (remove variables) Sometimes an area may be left 'flexible' to provide better feedback to driver but it's pretty rare and very specific
John Holzhey (16 hours ago)
+gdeangelkick I've never seen a Corvette that was "too stiff". Flexibility is one of their faults they are working on eliminating.
gdeangelkick (18 hours ago)
GM is happy to put people in cars that are likely to kill them. It took the US Congress to get them to fess up about their ignition switches... and still they make cars in the mid-size segment that are a hodge-podge of computer code that I wouldn't want to bet my life on. The only car that they make properly *might* be the Corvette... so what would he be saying if he looked at the frame of a Corvette? Too stiff. LOL.
John Holzhey (2 days ago)
You mean as far as cost v reliability? I don't think it would be a much higher cost, and the places where rust ould be a factor would be far reduced.
justin credible (2 days ago)
+Peter Jones Hey, good point! Do you know if there is a tradeoff point?
Chris Chong (4 days ago)
2:49 Snoopy
Mr. Pritchard (4 days ago)
GM sucks and Bloomberg is being paid by them. This is the third or fourth story I've seen about Tesla from them this week alone.
Tes Tos (4 days ago)
Well any company will have growing pains and designs will be improve as a standard operating procedure, anything can be produced cheaper but at what cost? labor? are you going to replace people with robots? improve design, manufacturing, cut corners, are we going to make investors happy, are we going to find the middle ground where quality and profits meet?
Jason Lawson (4 days ago)
Their big complaint is the fact that the body design is costly to build and that is getting into profit. That is what is so rare about Elon, he work's for his customer and not so much the profit, and I personally think that that is priceless.
Daniel J (4 days ago)
I'm a very science minded person, I see the big picture. I honestly do not think electric cars are the future. There's just too many negatives, batteries mfr/disposal/weight (not green), limited range, recharging (power grid overloads) are you going to take that car through the mountains? Back roads? Cross country? Cabin heat in cold climates? A/C in hot climates? Probably not.
Benjamin Buljevic (4 days ago)
too stiff? is he on weed?
treerexaudi Official (2 days ago)
Benjamin Buljevic (4 days ago)
+Martin Privat holy shit its on a different level When you typed wtf is too stiff i thought you didnt know what that even meant
Martin Privat (4 days ago)
+Benjamin Buljevic LOL If you cannot understand that I was agreeing with you then really who is stupid?
Benjamin Buljevic (4 days ago)
+Martin Privat oh youre just stupid hes talking about how stiff the chassis is, what he means is that car chassis naturally flex a little while youre driving, which you obviously dont want because it screws with your suspension geometry what i dont understand is why would you want your car to be less stiff?
Martin Privat (4 days ago)
I'm on weed and I stopped the video at that statement. WTF is too stiff?
because reasons (4 days ago)
Conclusion: Tesla rocks, you suck. So much you have no right to even debate it.
chris davies (4 days ago)
lexus will dominate electrical cars.
MrAkorazado (4 days ago)
they are getting desperate xD gj tesla
Steven Deary (5 days ago)
Why so much hate for the video? He said that Tesla battery and motor technology is vastly superior and cheaper than rivals but the chassis is too hard to mass produce. Elon himself has mirrored these words in the past.
Robert Kubrick (5 days ago)
We we're doing that with magnets in our small welding shop 36 years ago. It's not revolutionary.
Spooky Twat (5 days ago)
Background music is too LOUD relative to voices.
grumpygeologist (5 days ago)
music drowning out voice - not worth watching
XxlethalDJxX (5 days ago)
man this just shows me how pissed off the car cartel ( GM, FORD ETC) is at tesla.
Go. RC (5 days ago)
Tesla roadster got all this covered
Tim Sevey (5 days ago)
Have you priced a new Silverado asshole? How are they any different in price vs. Manufacturing? I'm a mechanic and I see it all. Be careful throwing rocks from your glass palace. Tesla GAVE Away their patents. When did GM, Ford, or Dodge do that post ww2?
Mark Holcombe (5 days ago)
Elon would have taken all this on and been mature about it.
Ifan Morgan (5 days ago)
“Ahead in all areas, except for one”...... goes on to slag off the Tesla for that one thing for the rest of the video......🤔🤔🤔
Paul van Druten (5 days ago)
Bullshit! The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has given the Tesla Model 3 sedan a five-star overall safety rating, the highest score the agency can give. https://youtu.be/thAnJ6AE0Hg
Mike Bolton (5 days ago)
Hmm... maybe the frame is built that way to deal with the electric torque?
Pauley Wallnutz (5 days ago)
GM is closing 5 plants and laying off 15,000 employees.....meanwhile China just ordered a fleet of 2000 TESLA semis', Elons Space X just successfully landed the Falcon 9 Heavy REUSEABLE rocket in the Pacific, and Musk's boring company just completed a one mile tunnel in Los Angeles within a year! So, let's knock PROGRESS!?!?
interstategar (5 days ago)
Seems an electric car is much less hassle since conventional motors are dominated by pollution control, and sensors galore. Eventually electric cars will replace gas and diesel powered vehicles in my opinion.
IRON60 BITCH (5 days ago)
Batteries a owned by Panasonic
Billy Joe (5 days ago)
Well, Tesla's not perfect but they still have the best electric vehicle in the world. Not Toyota, Not Ford. TESLA!
Robert Carter (5 days ago)
It's built for safety idiots. Reviewed by monkeys who could never create a successful company. Horseman reviewing a stagecoach. Munro it's a media whore trying to get press, and of course the monkeys in the press wouldn't know any better.
W P (5 days ago)
I hope Elon Musk sees this.
roy goodman (5 days ago)
Craig Packer (6 days ago)
do we need shitfully complex music running in the background, while we listen to a guy who has no vocal presentation skills?

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